"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure, and the intelligent are full of doubt" Bertrand Russell.
Nugget, you are awesome!
every year i attend, missing only 5 in 50 years.. i do not attend meetings nor active in anyway, my family shun me,(all devote believers) but i do feel drawn to attend each year.
i am out for sure, but i no longer have faith, or a belief in any religous body as being approved by god.. i am so screwed up now i not sure if i believe in a creator!, let alone who or what that may be.. i was born into the truth, married into the truth and my ex is devote.. i could never return to the cult now seeing it for what it is.. i served, donated, slaved for years happy to do so as has all my family.. i went out of my way to get df, sort of a wanting to die act, of rejecting the society.. i used to sit in a movie in my youth and think, wow i am so lucky, all these people are going to die and i will live forever.. even just typing this gives release to my emotions,, lol,,, yea i have many emotions,,, many regrets, basically the organisation i followed and the instructions destroyed my life in every possible way.. the power plays that i witnessed within are what first woke me up,,,at first i let it go, forgiving those involved as brothers do.
but again and again power and position is and was the thing to have, you got the power you got everything.
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure, and the intelligent are full of doubt" Bertrand Russell.
Nugget, you are awesome!
im the nervy, anxious type.
i suffer with panic attacks and sometimes my agoraphobia cripples me.
the organisation effectively isolated me fo a long time.
I will check out the website now Flossycat
And if and when you are ready to wean yourself off Paroxetine, PM me, as I can recommend an excellent forum that can support you, of whom Ive been a member for 2 years....they are predominantly a forum for anxiety and panic, but have sub-forums for medication issues. Based in the UK, all I can say is the atmosphere is very genteel and caring, and there is always someone around with a friendly word.
Take care of yourself Ms T x (your book sounds interesting..!)
every year i attend, missing only 5 in 50 years.. i do not attend meetings nor active in anyway, my family shun me,(all devote believers) but i do feel drawn to attend each year.
i am out for sure, but i no longer have faith, or a belief in any religous body as being approved by god.. i am so screwed up now i not sure if i believe in a creator!, let alone who or what that may be.. i was born into the truth, married into the truth and my ex is devote.. i could never return to the cult now seeing it for what it is.. i served, donated, slaved for years happy to do so as has all my family.. i went out of my way to get df, sort of a wanting to die act, of rejecting the society.. i used to sit in a movie in my youth and think, wow i am so lucky, all these people are going to die and i will live forever.. even just typing this gives release to my emotions,, lol,,, yea i have many emotions,,, many regrets, basically the organisation i followed and the instructions destroyed my life in every possible way.. the power plays that i witnessed within are what first woke me up,,,at first i let it go, forgiving those involved as brothers do.
but again and again power and position is and was the thing to have, you got the power you got everything.
My conscience is clear djeggnog, and in no way "seared" thank you. I just wanted to make sure you are clear on that.
You say "how do you know she is right"?
How do you know I am wrong????? Ok, lets not even go there. Why do you insist on turning everything into a nine act opera??? MAISHA........please come back and tell us what you decided to do.
And if you didnt go, as you havent before, how Jehovah didnt smite you or turn you into a fireball in the middle of Wallmart.
And on that note...I bid you ALL, a very good night.
PAULA
ohmygosh!!!
one of my friends who is a ms told me today that the elders have 'marked' me because i'm a reg.pioneer and i've decided to go to college next semester???!
he said he can't tell me anymore but to be careful---what the hell does 'mark' mean?
Its going to get worse, the noose is just going to get tighter and tighter. Have you finished reading crisis of conscience yet?
You are on the radar now..........
since my spouse is an active elder, i accompany him to sads, cas and das, at least for the time being.
anyway, i thought i'd share some of the more odd/disturbing bits from the latest "sanctify god's name" ca.
there wasn't anything particularly new but the tone toward porn, higher ed, bad assoc, "habitual" murmuring and harmful gossip is definitely hardening, as are the cautions against social networking.
"What would you know about the bible if not for Gods Organisation?"........pompous arrogant asses.
Translation "You are dumb, we are not.........be grateful for the scraps we feed you"
Thanks for the outline of the Circuit Assembly, I wont be going!
Paula
im the nervy, anxious type.
i suffer with panic attacks and sometimes my agoraphobia cripples me.
the organisation effectively isolated me fo a long time.
Thanks all for your good wishes x Im in a very good place at the moment x
Flossycat, I dont take any meds for my panic, anxiety and agoraphobia. Im realising after years of abusing painkillers and tranquillizers, that only I can make a difference to myself, although meds work well for a lot of people. I think the mind is a powerful thing, and I try to push out of my comfort zone. My anxiety is also linked to my hormones, and rockets at ovulation, and I remain on high alter til my period arrives. Im used to this cycle, and I make the most of the "good" 2 weeks. Roll on menopause hahah!
I use tapes by Dr Susan Jeffers called "Feel the fear and do it anyway" and also read Dr Claire Weekes "self-help for your nerves"
I use a lot of aromatherapy oils, and have made improvements to my diet this past six months, resulting in not only weight loss, but my cholesterol going from 6.4mmols to 4.1mmols, and my blood pressure is normal. I have tried several meds over the years, but found the side effects too much to cope with. Anxiety can stem from chemical imbalances in some people, and this is where meds are of enormous benefit. Mine occured after a death of a family member in 2000, coupled with genetics (mother and grandmother had nervous, anxious tendencies)
Im so glad that Paroxitine is helping you Living with some form of anxiety 24/7 is very hard, but I wont give up on wellness. The mind is powerful, and I believe being pro-active is the way to go, for me at least. I hope you continue to feel well, and I appreciate your comments about this. Take care, Paula x
he always tells me that i've adopted him as a father...we're pretty close.
i spoke with him asking for some advice about whether or not to pursue my degree.he, to my surprise, couldn't give me his opinion.he told me that if he tells me how he really feels (he says he has some strong views on the matter) he may be disciplined for 'promoting higher education'....in effect he was telling me to go ahead and pursue my degree but not really saying it.
he asked me to promise him that i'll speak to the presiding overseer and the circuit overseer....i haven't as yet.
Congratulations on getting into college, youre eyes are about to be opened big time! Enjoy the experience
every year i attend, missing only 5 in 50 years.. i do not attend meetings nor active in anyway, my family shun me,(all devote believers) but i do feel drawn to attend each year.
i am out for sure, but i no longer have faith, or a belief in any religous body as being approved by god.. i am so screwed up now i not sure if i believe in a creator!, let alone who or what that may be.. i was born into the truth, married into the truth and my ex is devote.. i could never return to the cult now seeing it for what it is.. i served, donated, slaved for years happy to do so as has all my family.. i went out of my way to get df, sort of a wanting to die act, of rejecting the society.. i used to sit in a movie in my youth and think, wow i am so lucky, all these people are going to die and i will live forever.. even just typing this gives release to my emotions,, lol,,, yea i have many emotions,,, many regrets, basically the organisation i followed and the instructions destroyed my life in every possible way.. the power plays that i witnessed within are what first woke me up,,,at first i let it go, forgiving those involved as brothers do.
but again and again power and position is and was the thing to have, you got the power you got everything.
I think I read somewhere on here it was April 5th Stealth.....but dont quote me on that
every year i attend, missing only 5 in 50 years.. i do not attend meetings nor active in anyway, my family shun me,(all devote believers) but i do feel drawn to attend each year.
i am out for sure, but i no longer have faith, or a belief in any religous body as being approved by god.. i am so screwed up now i not sure if i believe in a creator!, let alone who or what that may be.. i was born into the truth, married into the truth and my ex is devote.. i could never return to the cult now seeing it for what it is.. i served, donated, slaved for years happy to do so as has all my family.. i went out of my way to get df, sort of a wanting to die act, of rejecting the society.. i used to sit in a movie in my youth and think, wow i am so lucky, all these people are going to die and i will live forever.. even just typing this gives release to my emotions,, lol,,, yea i have many emotions,,, many regrets, basically the organisation i followed and the instructions destroyed my life in every possible way.. the power plays that i witnessed within are what first woke me up,,,at first i let it go, forgiving those involved as brothers do.
but again and again power and position is and was the thing to have, you got the power you got everything.
Maisha, surely if you are contemplating NOT going, your inner voice is trying to tell you something? Listen to your heart, it wont let you down.
Nothing bad is going to happen if you dont go. As previously mentioned, maybe start reading and researching for yourself. You are already being shunned.....why not use this time to build-up your self-confidence and self-esteem.......if you feel the need to read the bible, try other versions, not just the WTBTS version.
You need to start to think for yourself, which is hard, I know, without the fear of reprisals about what others think of you, how they treat you. . Little steps will get you there. Keep posting here. Nice to talk to you.
Paula
last year i purchased a corned beef package from trader joes.
i love corned beef but my husband didn't so i rarely cooked it for the family.
but trader joes was passing out samples last year, i couldn't resist and hubby decided he liked it but i'm only to buy the corned beef from trader joes.
Ok Tal just for you x If they fail you, I will give you your money back lol
Tips....
Use a muffin tray because they are deep
Make up the batter at least an hour before you need it.....and keep it at room temp
Ingredients
225g (8oz) plain flour
Half teaspoon salt
3 eggs (beaten)
1 egg white (for extra lift)
300-450ml while milk (The less milk, the denser the puddings)
Cooking oil (I have had good results with sunflower and rapeseed oils)
Method
Pre-heat your oven to 220c/425f/Gas mark 7
Sift the flour with the salt
Add the beaten eggs, then the egg white. Whisk in your milk ( I use a hand held electric mixer).
Add about 2 tablespoons of oil to each muffin hollow, and put in the oven for about 10-15 minutes until it is almost smoking hot
I pour the batter into a jug, which makes for easier pouring and reduces the chance of spills/burns......divide equally.
DO NOT OPEN THE OVEN DOOR UNTIL AT LEAST 20 mins HAVE PASSED!!!! (My granny was right!)
Cook for 25 mins, or up to 40 mins as I do because I like mine very brown and crispy.
HAPPY COOKING! x